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Kevin -
     I do agree with you and find that there are those individuals and corporate entities that will 'bend' the truth to create a favorable view of their focus, products or themselves ! I also see that those who are 'looking' at statements of others, may have 'preconceived' ideas and views embedded in their own views, which may be exactly what you are referring to ! I would suggest that 'we all must just get along' and make specific comments when appropriate, remembering that most 'truths' can evolve and change is inevitable in our world !
     Peace,  John Burke,   Chair ASES PV Tech Div,    Maine Solar Energy Association,   dadsolar@yahoo.com,    dadsolar.com

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John Burke
Director, MESEA, Maine
Maine Solar Energy Association; Downeast Alternative Design Solar, Inc
Jonesport ME
dadsolar@yahoo.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-12-2022 11:31 AM
From: Kevin Chisholm
Subject: Question for the Solar Community

Does the solar industry ever pursue organizations or people that make untrue statements about the industry?  It is in reference to solar thermal that I am asking this. 

I know of some corporate and several individuals that sometimes make statements that could be seen as damaging. 

Thanks,

Kevin Chisholm

Virginia 

Yes, the affiliated SEIA Chapters have informed consumer affairs offices in cities, counties, and states,
on absolutely false advertising. But that is different than interpretations of percentages of efficiency and payback - since in many cases that depends on the undelying assumptions. So if you see something  attrotious contact the state or regional SEIA or ASES chapter,
SEIA:  https://www.seia.org/official-state-affiliates
ASES: https://ases.org/our-community/chapters/
Regards, Scott

 

Scott Sklar, President, The Stella Group, Ltd., VA Ph:  703-522-3049 direct) E-mail:   solarsklar@aol.com

Website:  www.TheStellaGroupLtd.com

 Adjunct Professor & Sustainable Energy Director, Environment & Energy Management Institute (EEMI)

The George Washington University (GWU).   https://eemi.seas.gwu.edu/   sklar@gwu.edu

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Scott Sklar
President & Adj Professor
The Stella Group, Ltd, GWU EEMI
Arlington, VA
solarsklar@aol.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-12-2022 11:31 AM
From: Kevin Chisholm
Subject: Question for the Solar Community

Does the solar industry ever pursue organizations or people that make untrue statements about the industry?  It is in reference to solar thermal that I am asking this. 

I know of some corporate and several individuals that sometimes make statements that could be seen as damaging. 

Thanks,

Kevin Chisholm

Virginia 

Original Message:
Sent: 1/13/2022 10:28:00 PM
From: Scott Sklar
Subject: RE: Question for the Solar Community

Yes, the affiliated SEIA Chapters have informed consumer affairs offices in cities, counties, and states,
on absolutely false advertising. But that is different than interpretations of percentages of efficiency and payback - since in many cases that depends on the undelying assumptions. So if you see something  attrotious contact the state or regional SEIA or ASES chapter,
SEIA:  https://www.seia.org/official-state-affiliates
ASES: https://ases.org/our-community/chapters/
Regards, Scott

 

Scott Sklar, President, The Stella Group, Ltd., VA Ph:  703-522-3049 direct) E-mail:   solarsklar@aol.com

Website:  www.TheStellaGroupLtd.com

 Adjunct Professor & Sustainable Energy Director, Environment & Energy Management Institute (EEMI)

The George Washington University (GWU).   https://eemi.seas.gwu.edu/   sklar@gwu.edu

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Scott Sklar
President & Adj Professor
The Stella Group, Ltd, GWU EEMI
Arlington, VA
solarsklar@aol.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-12-2022 11:31 AM
From: Kevin Chisholm
Subject: Question for the Solar Community

Does the solar industry ever pursue organizations or people that make untrue statements about the industry?  It is in reference to solar thermal that I am asking this. 

I know of some corporate and several individuals that sometimes make statements that could be seen as damaging. 

Thanks,

Kevin Chisholm

Virginia 

Kevin: When you are on the victim side, you will personally know how damaging it can be. Corruption in a currency based world knows no boundaries by vocation or interest. That is simple fact. If you disagree, take off your rose colored glasses. We as humans do not suffer the fate or feelings of our neighbors, particularly when they are negative. We shy away from accurate perceptions in that direction for multiple Psychological reasons.

You open in your remark with, "people that make untrue statements". To bad we don't focus more on the ones that ARE TRUE. I got screwed out of my American Dream, blind sided from left field, by Solar testing and certification entities, organized as Fox's watching Fox's watching the hen house. 

To go back to my opening, the Solar Industry has no special exemptions from corruption. 
If you detect feeling in my statements, that represents about 1% of what is actually there, probably for all time.

I guess as the very old adage goes, "You reap what you sow".

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william fitch
Owner
www.WeAreSolar.com
fcfcfc@ptd.net
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-12-2022 11:31 AM
From: Kevin Chisholm
Subject: Question for the Solar Community

Does the solar industry ever pursue organizations or people that make untrue statements about the industry?  It is in reference to solar thermal that I am asking this. 

I know of some corporate and several individuals that sometimes make statements that could be seen as damaging. 

Thanks,

Kevin Chisholm

Virginia 

Original Message:
Sent: 1/19/2022 12:50:00 PM
From: william fitch
Subject: RE: Question for the Solar Community

Kevin: When you are on the victim side, you will personally know how damaging it can be. Corruption in a currency based world knows no boundaries by vocation or interest. That is simple fact. If you disagree, take off your rose colored glasses. We as humans do not suffer the fate or feelings of our neighbors, particularly when they are negative. We shy away from accurate perceptions in that direction for multiple Psychological reasons.

You open in your remark with, "people that make untrue statements". To bad we don't focus more on the ones that ARE TRUE. I got screwed out of my American Dream, blind sided from left field, by Solar testing and certification entities, organized as Fox's watching Fox's watching the hen house. 

To go back to my opening, the Solar Industry has no special exemptions from corruption. 
If you detect feeling in my statements, that represents about 1% of what is actually there, probably for all time.

I guess as the very old adage goes, "You reap what you sow".

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william fitch
Owner
www.WeAreSolar.com
fcfcfc@ptd.net
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-12-2022 11:31 AM
From: Kevin Chisholm
Subject: Question for the Solar Community

Does the solar industry ever pursue organizations or people that make untrue statements about the industry?  It is in reference to solar thermal that I am asking this. 

I know of some corporate and several individuals that sometimes make statements that could be seen as damaging. 

Thanks,

Kevin Chisholm

Virginia 

Original Message:
Sent: 1/20/2022 6:00:00 PM
From: Winston RILEY
Subject: RE: Question for the Solar Community

Welcome.

We need every hand.

Original Message:
Sent: 1/19/2022 12:50:00 PM
From: william fitch
Subject: RE: Question for the Solar Community

Kevin: When you are on the victim side, you will personally know how damaging it can be. Corruption in a currency based world knows no boundaries by vocation or interest. That is simple fact. If you disagree, take off your rose colored glasses. We as humans do not suffer the fate or feelings of our neighbors, particularly when they are negative. We shy away from accurate perceptions in that direction for multiple Psychological reasons.

You open in your remark with, "people that make untrue statements". To bad we don't focus more on the ones that ARE TRUE. I got screwed out of my American Dream, blind sided from left field, by Solar testing and certification entities, organized as Fox's watching Fox's watching the hen house. 

To go back to my opening, the Solar Industry has no special exemptions from corruption. 
If you detect feeling in my statements, that represents about 1% of what is actually there, probably for all time.

I guess as the very old adage goes, "You reap what you sow".

------------------------------
william fitch
Owner
www.WeAreSolar.com
fcfcfc@ptd.net
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-12-2022 11:31 AM
From: Kevin Chisholm
Subject: Question for the Solar Community

Does the solar industry ever pursue organizations or people that make untrue statements about the industry?  It is in reference to solar thermal that I am asking this. 

I know of some corporate and several individuals that sometimes make statements that could be seen as damaging. 

Thanks,

Kevin Chisholm

Virginia 

Your details are really thin. It sounds like you are a typical res solar end job. Was the installer the one handling all the "bureaucratic details", forms, rebates, etc.., etc..? Getting all the "I's" dotted and the "T's" crossed can be arduous. If one thing is not followed through to the very end, the whole thing can fall apart. Go back and follow-up on all the individual forms and requests and make sure all WERE TOTALLY completed....

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william fitch
Owner
www.WeAreSolar.com
fcfcfc@ptd.net
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-21-2022 12:02 PM
From: Randy Degrace
Subject: Question for the Solar Community

Still waiting 6 months after install still not reimbursed dual payments with loan and electric bill about to tell them to Come take their panels back fix my roof and stay away from solar....

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

Original Message:
Sent: 1/20/2022 6:00:00 PM
From: Winston RILEY
Subject: RE: Question for the Solar Community

Welcome.

We need every hand.

Original Message:
Sent: 1/19/2022 12:50:00 PM
From: william fitch
Subject: RE: Question for the Solar Community

Kevin: When you are on the victim side, you will personally know how damaging it can be. Corruption in a currency based world knows no boundaries by vocation or interest. That is simple fact. If you disagree, take off your rose colored glasses. We as humans do not suffer the fate or feelings of our neighbors, particularly when they are negative. We shy away from accurate perceptions in that direction for multiple Psychological reasons.

You open in your remark with, "people that make untrue statements". To bad we don't focus more on the ones that ARE TRUE. I got screwed out of my American Dream, blind sided from left field, by Solar testing and certification entities, organized as Fox's watching Fox's watching the hen house. 

To go back to my opening, the Solar Industry has no special exemptions from corruption. 
If you detect feeling in my statements, that represents about 1% of what is actually there, probably for all time.

I guess as the very old adage goes, "You reap what you sow".

------------------------------
william fitch
Owner
www.WeAreSolar.com
fcfcfc@ptd.net

Original Message:
Sent: 01-12-2022 11:31 AM
From: Kevin Chisholm
Subject: Question for the Solar Community

Does the solar industry ever pursue organizations or people that make untrue statements about the industry?  It is in reference to solar thermal that I am asking this. 

I know of some corporate and several individuals that sometimes make statements that could be seen as damaging. 

Thanks,

Kevin Chisholm

Virginia