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  • 1.  NYC Climate Meeting

    ASES Life Member
    Posted 05-05-2023 10:36 AM
    To be immediately effective humans need to stop using fossil fuels in New buildings and NEW vehicles as soon as next month!!
    They also need to call for the CONVERSION of ALL existing buildings to non-fossil fuel use. See RMI for suggestions. That conversion will likely take 5-10 years.
    David Stout, Environmental Analyst (retired).



  • 2.  RE: NYC Climate Meeting

    Silver
    Contributor
    Posted 05-05-2023 03:11 PM

    Hi David,

    Thanks so much for your message! Do you perhaps have the link to the suggestions that RMI provides?

    With much appreciation,
    Ella



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    Ella Nielsen
    Membership & Engagement Manager
    American Solar Energy Society
    Boulder CO
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  • 3.  RE: NYC Climate Meeting

    ASES Life Member
    Posted 05-08-2023 11:44 AM
    Here's the link to attend the upcoming Zoom session (tomorrow)  "Why We're Hopeful: A Conversion with David Roberts" sponsored by RMI:
    Initiatives by The Rocky Mountain Institute (RMI) will be discussed.
    David Stout.





  • 4.  RE: NYC Climate Meeting

    Silver
    Contributor
    Posted 05-12-2023 12:15 AM
    Edited by william fitch 05-12-2023 08:20 AM

    As an FYI regarding RMI Ella, do you know who the key player was in the startup of RMI? Amory Lovins back in the early 80's really was the one who pushed RMI and his wife (Hunter) who was heavily involved in the business. Amory Lovin's book, "Brittle Power" was one of the environmental ground breaking books of its day. Its actually still a good read. If I remember correctly, back then they always referred to themselves as the Rocky Mountain Institute rather than the acronym. I mention that because I think you are from that area of the country, and I wondered if you knew of them.. or more....



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    www.WeAreSolar.com
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  • 5.  RE: NYC Climate Meeting

    ASES Life Member
    Posted 05-15-2023 01:04 PM
    Yes, all you ASES members,
    My wife and I were out West years ago and we stopped unplanned at Amory's home at that time (with the nutrient recycling pond and solar space) and built into the Mountain side.
    Amory invited us in to look, but was busy working on a presentation, so we looked where directed, including up to the solar panel roof, thanked him and left.
    So yes I've met him there and out on the lecture circuit since. I'd say we are somewhat of like mind. but not close friends.
    His book is worth the read;and set me into ASES life membership, joining the regional NESEA unit of ASES, and attending NESEA education builders conferences to allow me to design the house I now live in (Yes, I had to hire an architect which I trained in solar science) to get the plans approved for a construction loan back in 1979.

    Since then I've changed out the electric cooktop (now induction), added solar hot water preheat to a single pass natural gas water heater, and two solar electric systems one for the house and other for electric Nissan Leaf Plus car. Also two summers ago, I added an air to air heat exchanger system to replace the high efficiency natural gas furnace and air conditioner to eliminate that fossil fuel use..
    As solar cells are becoming less expensive, and at this latitude, the summer sun is the power source to seek out, so I'm thinking nearly flat roofs are good choices for solar electric systems and getting the early morning and late afternoon sun energy isn't as important as previously thought (but critical as used to qualify systems for rebates in the early years).
    My DC system (December 2010) is almost paid for mostly from the stranded cost savings from not purchasing utility power for 15 years). My AC system installed October 2019 is also almost paid for (by 2024).
    I've recently found that Enphase may make my net metered system safely dis-connnectable from the utility when It goes down to create a behind the meter property AC system powered by solar cells or Nissan battery, perhaps as soon as next year. This independence may be more useful as the grid gets buffered by climate change weather effects not planned for by National Grid. 
    To keep a livable planet we must capture 20% of the incoming solar energy arriving at every place on the planet and cease using fossil fuels stored years ago with carbon in them. The 20% we choose to capture doesn't have to be the most difficult part of 100% either. This is doable.
    I believe there is a role for Hydrogen as a gas and electric from renewable wind and solar, with some underwater hydo-power not currently considered (and perhaps to make H2 along interstate highways, many of which have Rivers nearby),.
    We can reverse climate change, but we all must make changes with efficiency a critical factor. 
    David Stout, retired Environmental Analyst, ASES life member.





  • 6.  RE: NYC Climate Meeting

    ASES Award Winner
    Posted 05-16-2023 11:07 AM
    I still use Amory's book, Brittle Power in my three different GWU classes to begin the dialogue
    on "energy resiliency" and the "brittleness" of complex systems. Still very relevant today.
    Amory and I have worked to gether over many decades, and he was/is a most important thought-
    leader on our transition to high-value energy efficiency and renewable energy .. Scott Sklar

    Scott Sklar 
    Adjunct Professor & EEMI Director of  Energy Sustainability
    Environment & Energy Management Institute (EEMI)
           and Director, GWU Solar Institute
    The George Washington University (GWU)
    For non-GWU email: solarsklar@aol.com Ph 703-522-3049

    RE: Amory Lovins back in the early 80's really was the one who pushed RMI and his wife (Hunter) who was heavily involved in the business. Amory Lovin's book, "Brittle Power" was one of the environmental ground breaking books of its day. Its actually still a good read. If I remember correctly, back then they always referred to themselves as the Rocky Mountain Institute rather than the acronym. I mention that because I think you are from that area of the country, and I wondered if you knew of them.. or more....






  • 7.  RE: NYC Climate Meeting

    Silver
    Contributor
    Posted 05-15-2023 11:44 PM

     Hi Bill!

    Thank you for your message! Yes, I've heard of Amory and Hunter Lovins; I haven't read Brittle Power; however it's definitely on my list, thank you! I have a friend that works at Rocky Mountain Institute, they call it RMI for short, but that's good to know that it's best to refer to them by their name rather than the acronym.

    I spoke with a Rocky Mountain Institute representative the other day about the potential of them being a part of the Boulder Mini Solar Tour during SOLAR 2023 conference week, as they have solar on their Boulder Office building. 

    Thank you!

    Ella



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    Ella Nielsen
    Membership & Engagement Manager
    American Solar Energy Society
    Boulder CO
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  • 8.  RE: NYC Climate Meeting

    Silver
    Contributor
    Posted 05-16-2023 07:47 AM

    I am sure today RMI is what they use. I meant way back then they always used their full name before you started seeing the short pop up.
    I thought you might have 'run into them' in the past. Thanks for the reply... Still working on the rest of KISS. If you know of any cartoonists, let me know.



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    Owner
    www.WeAreSolar.com
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  • 9.  RE: NYC Climate Meeting

    Posted 05-16-2023 09:45 AM

    Speaking of Amory Lovins and RMI, I highly recommend his book Reinventing Fire, 2011, and this article, The Invisible Energy Bonanza: Creating Wealth Out Of Nothing.

     https://www.forbes.com/sites/amorylovins/2019/01/21/the-invisible-energy-bonanza/?sh=3f3d04e698a3



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