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  • 1.  Solar Today Article: When Communities Oppose Large Solar and Wind Installations

    Silver
    Contributor
    Posted 10-25-2023 12:13 PM

    "Not everyone is thrilled to have a utility-scale wind or solar installation next door. Even those who favor the use of solar, wind and other clean energy alternatives have a different view of things when a large-scale project is planned for just down the road in an otherwise rural or scenic setting."

    Read this article by Joel Stronberg, president of The JBS Group/Civil Notion and member of ASES...



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    Kat Friedrich
    Editor in Chief
    American Solar Energy Society
    Monona WI
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  • 2.  RE: Solar Today Article: When Communities Oppose Large Solar and Wind Installations

    Silver
    Contributor
    Posted 10-26-2023 02:36 PM
    Edited by william fitch 10-26-2023 02:44 PM

    Yes, there are many reasons for NIMBY'ism. Poor pre-engagement with the local area, projects not well thought out, not being pro-active enough, etc.. However, the deliberate political polarization of the energy sector by the intrenched interests, was just that. Because they knew how effective it would be, particularly after witnessing everything that has been going on, and more importantly that which has not been going on (Accountability) since 2016. There are many parts to a complex system, and I use the word system here very broadly. The entire social interaction around this topic (Energy) can be viewed as a system, apart from the actual energy itself.

    But not all parts of a complex system have equal effect on all the other parts. It is this fact that gives rise to Linchpin theory. If Linchpin theory is foreign to you, go down to you local "box" store an pick up the game "Jenga". You can pull out almost any block in the tower as it goes up with little to no immediate consequence. However if you pull just the right one (Not the object of the game), the whole tower will come falling down. Like the pancaking of the World Trade Center floors. Make the top couple of floors fall and the whole building comes down. Make a crack at the very bottom of a dam, and the whole dam will burst. Crack at the top, light repair work.

    The power interests who have created this social polarization know that the key linchpin to failing all the areas they control through that polarization, is accountability, which is why there has not been any where (Who) it needs to be on. The right block has not been pulled. Now, is there a great dog and pony show going on right now making the appearance of "there is going to be accountability". Sure. You have to have one of those to keep the half time festivities interesting. In the end though, will there be real physical long lasting top level and close quartered accountability? NO. And unfortunately that means we are in for far worse problems, than what form of energy feeds your daily lives. And it also means that it will continue to be a very slow, difficult struggle to get RE where it needs to get to, to satisfy Mother Nature in time.

    Jenga tower



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    william fitch
    Owner
    www.WeAreSolar.com
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  • 3.  RE: Solar Today Article: When Communities Oppose Large Solar and Wind Installations

    ASES Life Member
    Posted 10-26-2023 06:13 PM
    Rooftops remain available and in some areas flat ones will produce most of the power, land to site solar panels may well not be needed.
    David Stout.





  • 4.  RE: Solar Today Article: When Communities Oppose Large Solar and Wind Installations

    Silver
    Contributor
    Posted 10-26-2023 10:59 PM
    Edited by william fitch 10-28-2023 10:31 AM

    They estimate there are 8 Billion square meters of roof area in the USA suitable for solar panels. That translates to about 3000 square miles, about 1/4 to 1/3 of the area we need. SO certainly it is a good start, but by itself, it won't be enough, nearly.

    Regarding RE, all forms, it must be an all of the above solution to displace FF's and Nuclear.

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/02/a-solar-panel-on-every-roof-in-the-us-here-are-the-numbers/



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    william fitch
    Owner
    www.WeAreSolar.com
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  • 5.  RE: Solar Today Article: When Communities Oppose Large Solar and Wind Installations

    Posted 10-27-2023 10:17 AM

    Most things that neighbors might have an issue with utility solar could be handled simply with smart site planning. Suitable buffer areas between the solar array and adjacent properties could make the array invisible or at least greatly obscured. While there would be lots of activity during construction, once complete, there would be little traffic or noise related to the operation of the site. Appropriate planning for vehicle routes and hours during construction could minimize impact to the community. Using native plantings around and under the array could attract wildlife.  When operational, it could be a quiet, stable area, in a way protecting the area from further development. It could provide tax revenue that may benefit the local community financially.  I have seen the ugliness that fracking sites bring to a community. A solar array is at least 100 times more attractive, and the community does not have to live with the huge environmental impact for years following the installation.  I would say the same could happen with large wind, changing agricultural land to dual use.  Maybe it is just a matter of educating those in the community on the pros of utility solar and wind versus the cons of alternatives?



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    Ken Nadsady
    AviSun Renewable Energy
    Hudson OH
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  • 6.  RE: Solar Today Article: When Communities Oppose Large Solar and Wind Installations

    ASES Life Member
    Posted 10-31-2023 12:53 PM

    The less-than-thrilling aesthetics of large wind and solar projects is just one of many reasons to turn to ambient energy for buildings. Modern homes that are entirely (or nearly so) heated and cooled by ambient energy look essentially the same as any other house. You have to look closely to see the thicker insulation and thermal mass. If all buildings had such performance, we would need three times less wind and solar electric, because offsetting heating and cooling not only reduces average demand, but also peak demand. See my recent article in Solar Today: https://solartoday.mydigitalpublication.com/archive/?m=23867&i=803714&p=34&ver=html5

    Resilience and independence are other reasons. That sole linchpin that electric utilities would become if buildings are all-electric is made smaller and less critical by using local ambient energy for heating and cooling.



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    M Keith Sharp
    Emeritus Professor
    Louisville KY
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