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  • 1.  Trump/Musk Alliance

    Silver
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    Posted 11-08-2024 09:01 AM
    Edited by Timothy Mcbride 11-11-2024 06:03 AM

     " Something to consider for discussion is the fact that President Trump has alligned with Elon Musk, one of the most advanced Entrepreneurs on the planet that is for solar energy on the grandest of scales. "

    For Instance

    Elon Musk, the founder of Tesla, is a strong advocate for solar energy and believes it will become the primary energy source for the world.  He has made several statements about solar energy, including: 

    Solar's Potential
    Musk has said that solar energy has the potential to meet the world's power needs. He believes that a small area of the United States, like Texas or New Mexico, could provide enough solar energy to power the entire country.
    Kardashev Scale
    Musk has used the Kardashev Scale to support his belief in solar energy. The Kardashev Scale is a way to measure a civilization's technological advancement based on how much energy it can use. Musk believes that the Kardashev Scale shows that solar energy will eventually be the primary energy source. 
    Solar Panels
    Musk has built Tesla's Solar division to provide rooftop solar panels and energy storage solutions to households. He has also said that Tesla's Starlink satellite network is powered by solar energy and battery storage. 
    Solar's Virtuous Circle
    Musk has said that solar energy completes a virtuous circle of clean energy products. He envisions a future where Tesla customers own an electric vehicle, plug it into their home battery to recharge, and power their homes with solar energy. 
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    " We believe that President Trump's trust in Elon Musk is a true sign that he is willing to go the extra mile towards continued implementation of this technology all across America. And as well may actually usher in a new common sense renaissance  in the solar energy technologies as thousands of, "  * Made in America "  solar related manufacturing comes online with a greater cutting edge advantage  this time around as the technology as a whole has matured into what we call, " SUPER  SOLAR " - Also along with the increased enthusiasm for shared research and development in this field all across the planet. We believe that solar will ultimately be the main energy source of the future, but nevertheless at the current technology level in America we need both, the increasingly clean fuels for heavy transportation, and construction, and agriculture during this transistional time between the worlds of today and tomorrow. "

    Tesla's groundbreaking solar cells marks a pivotal moment in history of renewable energy. These cells promise to revolutionize the solar industry by offering cheaper and more efficient alternatives to traditional silicon-based panels. By harnessing the power of ferroelectric crystals, Tesla's innovative technology opens doors to endless possibilities for sustainable energy production.

    Read -Full Article Published Trump/Musk Alliance


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    Timothy Mcbride
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  • 2.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Silver
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    Posted 11-11-2024 10:33 AM

    Really Mcbride!! With selective tunnel vision like that, you could have been the Gauleiter of Berlin. 

    Its one thing to look at a glass, 1/2 with water, and call it half full. Its quite another to look at a glass, 1/2 with water and call it full.



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  • 3.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Silver
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    Posted 11-11-2024 12:54 PM
    Edited by Timothy Mcbride 11-16-2024 05:43 AM

    Yes Really, We accept the world as it is today with grand hopes to improve it in the future.  A glass is always full of glass to the very rim no matter, while its contents may very from coke a cola to pure water.  Lets just make sure the darn thing is clean before it gets refilled.. As for the  Gauleiter of Berlin,  The President Elect  has  been called Hitler, so we guess that is another  poke at that again, but how is that working out for you?  Tunnel Vision is great if that tunnel is a time tunnel, and one can go anywhere in space and time at will..  So lets go into the future with what we have to work with, otherwise you have truly lost sight of things to come..

    Have you ever noticed that all the Blue Counties are around the urban coastlines, or near large bodies of water all around America. Must be the ocean air,  or are we just seeing a  Blue Glass full of Red Liquid with a big huge, - I.C.E cube that somehow floated to the bottom, or is that just the,  NEW  MEXICO? 


    We can hear Elvis Presley singing Viva Las Vegas somewhere over the rainbow..


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  • 4.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    ASES Life Member
    Posted 11-11-2024 01:02 PM

    "We believe that President Trump's trust in Elon Musk is a true sign that he is willing to go the extra mile towards continued implementation of this technology all across America."

    Also a true sign that Trump values the $118 million that Musk contributed to his campaign.



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  • 5.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Silver
    Contributor
    Posted 11-11-2024 01:46 PM
    Edited by Timothy Mcbride 11-11-2024 01:59 PM

    Really !  The Guy is worth,  304 billion- 118M   pocket change.  What is the price of e-CNY ?  Better check the exchange rate. China about to cut a MAGA  deal?   

    "Democrats made a mistake when they failed to prohibit China from being eligible for the IRA tax credits, and the Biden administration's solar tariff moratorium was a disastrous policy that allowed China to overproduce and flood the market in an effort to harm U.S. solar manufacturers and undermine the IRA," said Nick Iacovella, a former aide to Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and a senior vice president at the Coalition for a Prosperous America, a trade group representing U.S. manufacturers. "That's not going to happen under Trump."

    Your Ship about to sail ! Better get to the ports soon. 



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  • 7.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Silver
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    Posted 11-11-2024 04:55 PM
    Edited by Timothy Mcbride 11-12-2024 02:17 AM

    Bill,  you should stick to, " We are Solar! "  We think that hat fits you better.  Bottom line on this line of thought is consult History, and know that this Hitler thing, will never happen in America,  Never!  So you should stop trying to make an comparison.  Pour out the rest of that koolaid you been drinking and get a fresh cup of sunshine.  Get busy doing some research. We are setting up a few solar experiments on the farm that should prove to be pretty exciting.  Data coming in soon !  Stay on topic please the  Never Talk Politics room is down the hall 2nd door on the right,  no left O-  there maybe stairs,  Heck I forget.. Better, Be careful down there you could get sucked into the Multi-Verse along with the,"  The Man in the High Castle " 


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  • 8.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Silver
    Contributor
    Posted 11-11-2024 10:35 PM

    Never talk politics!! LOL...!! You might want to take a look at YOUR threads initial post filled with political pictures and title words etc..

    How does that go, "I'm sorry counsel, you open the door on that so I am going to allow it."....lol....

    You sound like a piece of COAL proclaiming its White.... True to right wing form....

    Say hello to the Squatter for me at the WH......

    Regarding, "The Man in the High Castle", you should not insult such an excellent series by referencing it in this thread....

    You might try watching it....

    .....EOL



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  • 9.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Silver
    Contributor
    Posted 11-12-2024 01:55 AM
    Edited by Timothy Mcbride 11-17-2024 09:30 AM

    LOL  Yah  I've seen coal burn white hot, and BTW seen, "   The Man in the High Castle "  twice already once with our group here.  Already told you not right or left. You could put Sol Invictus in that White House wouldn't even notice because in my Father's house already are many mansions. Eternally Twelve  ( ET )  to be exact as the Constellations rock on.. Maniacs for Zodiac  and -  Nothing Else Matters!   Stay Objective 

    The conversation delves into the potential for expanded nuclear and solar energy initiatives, highlighting Texas’s rapid solar growth due to its deregulated environment. They also examine the risks, such as environmental concerns and the unpredictability of Trump’s stance on clean energy versus fossil fuels. The trio debates whether Trump’s policies could ultimately accelerate or impede the energy infrastructure crucial for AI development.

    We actually have a boiler experiment here on the farm that produces, White Coal as well.   Funny that you mentioned that. 

    " White Coal "  has multiple definitions, including a type of solid fuel and a term for water used for power:  

    • Solid fuel: White coal is a solid fuel made from organic waste, such as wood chips, sawdust, and agricultural residues, that is compacted into dense briquettes. It's a cleaner alternative to traditional coal and is considered a renewable fuel option
    • Water used for power: White coal can also refer to water from a stream used for power. 
    • White Coal refers to a fuel made by drying chopped wood over a fire. It was used in England from the mid-16th to the late 17th centuries to melt lead ore. It was lighter in color than charcoal and produced more heat than green wood but less than charcoal. It was used in pits known as Q-pits, which are often found in the woods of South Yorkshire.


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  • 10.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Posted 11-12-2024 09:39 AM

    I am not ready to turn over government control to the "billionaire class."  Musk is not an engineer, not an inventor, nor artist.  He has no experience in government and that is much more important than most voters understand it to be.  He is rightly called an entrepeneur who surrounds himself with competent and plyable board members who in turn hire top notch engineers and managers.  He did not create Tesla, he bought it.  Just as he has done with his entire portfolio.  His true colors are easily discovered with Twitter / X.  The value of the company went from $54B when he purchased it in October 2022 to $9.4B today.  It also went from a publicly traded corp to a his private ownership.  He needed the tax write-down.  Worse, it went from a trusted source of information to another social media cesspool of lies.

    The liteny of Musk's proclamations on solar energy may be soothing to this membership but I respectfully remind you that he looks at the world as HIS customers.  He also believes that "Mother Earth" can support billions more humans - more customers.  He has declared during this election cycle that crypto-currency is the future and that he would overhaul the Federal Reserve.  He confirs directly with Putin - not about solar energy - which is a breach of national security.  He manipulates Star-Link to influence a war against our allies.  He has USG contracts that offer unheard of opportunity for corruption under Trump.

    So, again I say, reject this notion that the "billionaire class" has all the answers.  Musk and Trump will use eachother for their own engrandizement.  It would be foolish of both Musk and Trump to derail the IRA or the Chips Act.  The economy would suffer as would the Musk portfolio.  Should they leave us alone, we solar proponents, out of good judgement or purely for capitalist rewards, we will be thankful.  But our solar goals for the future will not matter if our democracy is shackled, which is the real risk of Musk's purchasing the office of the presidency.



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  • 11.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

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    Posted 11-12-2024 10:38 AM
    Edited by Timothy Mcbride 11-12-2024 02:59 PM

     " I am not ready to turn over government control to the "billionaire class."

    Governments have been run by the " Billionaire class" ever since human beings began forming governments after leaving the Natural Great Garden to form the First Cities of Babylon. Remember the story of Nebuchadnezzar's quest for Gold, not to mention the Roman Elite to the Queen of England..Nowadays not much different. We believe Mother Earth will decide how many humans can ride upon her back, as it seems she might be becoming pretty pissed off with what the humans are a doing as Gaia's Wrath is already upon us by evidence of the super storms already reaping havoc upon the Civilizations of Man, not to mention what they might do to themselves Warlike.  We are still playing around with our silly games to elect leaders costing uptold billions every few years and then arguing over who spent the most, when we should be buckling down the hatches for what is to come.  It is useless to try and enter another human beings mind trying to guess what they might be thinking, or what they might believe when humans change their minds 60 times a second just as electricity hertz. There is something fundamentally wrong with the medium of exchange humans choose to commerce, ( The origin of the word, " Customer"  is the Latin – consuetudinem, coming from one's habit, or custom – or, someone's customary practice to do something repeatedly as a ritual Consumer)  with for sure and energy hog crypto-currency in it's current form is not the answer. If Connoisseur Trump, pulls off all this crap he is spewing out the People will not need need any  IRA or the Chips Act because there will not be any inflation, and Made in America Chips.  Americans  will be so successful otherwise in this, "  Grand Golden Age of America " ?

     Trump vows new 'golden age' for America

    "Every citizen, I will fight for you, your family and your future. Every single day I will be fighting for you, and with every breath in my body. I will not rest until we have delivered the strong, safe and prosperous America that our children deserve and that you deserve. This will truly be the golden age of America."

    We say lets hold him to it!  

    Lets help change that slogan to, 

     " The Great Golden Solar Age of America " 



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    Timothy Mcbride
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  • 12.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Posted 11-13-2024 07:05 AM
    Keep trying to convince yourself that a lying convicted felon and the leader of the world's largest private disinformation purveyor are a good thing for solar.  I am just going to go ahead and do everything to get my solar upgrades and decarbonization completed as fast as I can while I still can and none of it will include Tesla technology while Musk is still at the helm of this company!



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  • 13.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Silver
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    Posted 11-13-2024 04:16 PM
    Edited by Timothy Mcbride 11-18-2024 05:31 AM

    We know people that have been totally off the grid using solar technology since the early 70s.That is the beauty of this technology is that it can survive through many many many administrations no matter the political stance of anybody regardless.  We are glad you have gone solar and are upgrading your equipment. Lets hope it makes a difference. "A man convinced against his will will always hold the same opinion still. Still yet no regret the Sun will shine upon your head all the same instead install those panels under the stars, and invest in those EV cars.



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  • 14.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Posted 11-14-2024 10:43 AM
    Solar and the renewable energy movement has come a long ways and I predict it will not only survive but thrive on its own merits regardless of who’s in the White House.


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  • 15.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Silver
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    Posted 11-22-2024 11:06 AM

    In the heart of San Francisco, a simple misunderstanding at The Progressive Bean café transforms into an extraordinary tale of innovation and redemption. When Elon Musk is refused service because of his MAGA hat, he responds not with anger, but with an incredible opportunity. Instead of public shaming, he returns the following day and turns the café into a groundbreaking sustainable technology hub, creating educational programs and proving that the best response to prejudice is progress. This inspiring story shows how a moment of misjudgment became a catalyst for positive change in Silicon Valley.



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  • 16.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Silver
    Contributor
    Posted 11-22-2024 02:34 PM

    ".....his MAGA hat, he responds not with anger, but with....'" Oh of course. No anger in that face. What he did is the ultimate act of anger in a capitalist society. He obliterated the "Enemy" by buying it out. He destroyed it. Then put something else in its place. It was a complete act of supremacy, outrage. Fits perfectly with Fascism.

    Tell me TIM, did you ever here of people who believe that the end justifies the means.....

    You call that an inspiring story.... Sad. Another post you can add to your WH resume...

    You really should start a blog called, "The nonsense chronicles". This post of yours could be the first one, though there are many to choose from.... 

    TFTD#314. "Fascism and Capitalism are two sides of the same coin".

    "Hitler "built up" Germany by implementing large-scale public works projects like the Autobahn highway system, heavily investing in rearmament to create jobs, and utilizing propaganda to foster national pride, effectively pulling Germany out of the Great Depression."

    You see TIM, I think Hitler was just misunderstood. Really he was a humanitarian, building up Germany with Pride and great progress.

    MGGA (Make Germany Great Again)

    I am sure, YOU WOULD AGREE....



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  • 17.  RE: Trump/Musk Alliance

    Silver
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    Posted 11-25-2024 01:32 AM
    Edited by Timothy Mcbride 11-26-2024 09:06 AM

    NUTZ! 

    There is a fork in the road ahead.. Choose Wisely

    John Berger, Sunnova CEO, joins 'Closing Bell Overtime' to talk the impact of the upcoming Trump administration on solar energy.

    SunNova

    Truth of the matter is that you can put up those solar arrays until you no longer contribute to the dirty grid, and you can invest in that EV car that charges off your homespun energy apparatus, yet after you factor in everything energywise that took you to reach that point it will make little impact in the big picture unless you can get billions of other humans upon this planet to follow suit. Otherwise you have just joined another feel good cult further alienating your fellowman, yet you can brag about how little of a carbon footprint you have when in reality nothing has changed. Then the batteries, and equipment needs replaced, or a storm, hail, or lightning  has come and destroyed your system, and the company that sold you the stuff is no longer in business.  Truth of the matter is for a high technology society that services billions, to remain intact a lot of cogs in the wheels have to remain for a very long time and that takes a lot of energy, a lot of mining, manufacturing, distribution, infrastructure,  and recycling on the grandest of scales for this thing to actually work. The new incentive to go Ev/Solar might not become about the environment at all persay,  but instead more economical as with no electric bills, and with no gasoline bills. What more can you do with the money you saved?   Good Business Sense ( GBS ) will always strike an accord across many peoples, and cultures  from all walks of life planet wide.

    Pioneer Days here we come!  


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