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  • 1.  Which residential solar + battery system do you recommend?

    ASES Life Member
    Posted 06-14-2025 01:41 PM

    Hi all

    I have had a small rooftop array since 2007. I have decided to replace the roof (over 20 y/o) and since they have to remove the array I might as well upgrade to new modules. I also want to install a battery (probably 10 kWh for short outages). I am a solar researcher who has two PV+BESS installed in my lab for several years. One is a DC coupled Solaredge HDWave inverter and the other is a SMA AC Coupled Sunny Boy system.. Both have 10 kWh LG Li battery. Frankly I would not install either in my home. The Solaredge has constant problems with software updates causing us to lose communications or data interface. My installer says they feel Solaredge is not ready for prime time. The SMA has deep experience but poor customer service and their system does not include MLPE capability. . I need a system with MLPE since I will be adding modules to shaded areas of the roof that were off limits in 2007 due to heavy shading. 

    There are several new inverter+ BESS systems out there. Most are DC coupled, some AC (microinverters like Enphase, Franklin). Who has had experience good or bad with any inverter+BESS packages? Would you install them in your own home or would you install them again? 

    BTW I am donating my old array and inverter to habitat for humanity. The system has degraded about 0.5% per year for 18 years which is better than predicted. The modules were GE200 multi-Si and inverter is Schneider (no longer in the business). 

    Thanks

    Steve 



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    Steven Hegedus
    Professor and Senior Scientist
    University of Delaware
    Newark Delaware
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  • 2.  RE: Which residential solar + battery system do you recommend?

    Posted 06-16-2025 10:07 AM

    Steve,

    First, I am sure you will need Rapid Shutdown for your revamped system so would need MLPE or Microinverters regardless if you expand into shaded areas or not. I install lots of SolarEdge systems and have not had any communication issues except for one customer that has really bad internet service.  If you connect a SE inverter using ethernet, and your internet service is good, there should be no problems. If you use the zigbee gateway or rely on the cellular card inside the inverter or have some other wireless 3rd party solution in the mix, your mileage may vary as to the communication stability. You need to have good TCP/IP connectivity to have stable monitoring, but I am sure you know that.

    If you did reconsider SolarEdge, it would be an Energy Hub/Home Hub inverter that has built-in revenue grade production meter, import/export meter, and is ready for battery connections and for direct wired EV charger connections.  The only battery supported anymore is their own SolarEdge battery, not LGES.

    What I like about SolarEdge is it accommodates a nearly endless variety of array configurations. Mix roof surfaces/orientations in a string, not a problem.  Also, as long as the installer does everything they are supposed to do, like mapping the optimizers, you know exactly what is going on with the array, down to the panel/optimizer level.  SolarEdge support has been slow lately but if installed properly the need for it should be less.

    Enphase might be a good alternative for you. Again, the installer needs to map the inverters and install it properly, starting with a good design, proper string lengths, and center-fed wiring.  

    Another factor in recommending something to you would be what your load center/power distribution system looks like.  If you had an older Schneider, was it the XW or XW+?  Did you have an external transfer switch? Schneider XW Pro was the last inverter in that family and it was a really rugged inverter.

    The SolarEdge uses a Backup Interface as the Microgrid Interconnect Device (MID) and Enphase uses the IQ System Controller. Whatever you do make sure there is a way to bypass the Hybrid Inverter system in case there are issues with it. The SolarEdge BUI has a bypass built-in.

    One other popular choice is the Sol-Ark 15K. But for rooftop you are stuck with Tigo optimizers which I am not a big fan of.

    If it were me, I would go with SolarEdge or Enphase. And I like REC PV modules. Also, I install grid import/export monitoring with every system, and highly recommend you do so too, so that you get complete insight into your energy usage.



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    Ken Nadsady
    AviSun Renewable Energy
    Hudson OH
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  • 3.  RE: Which residential solar + battery system do you recommend?

    Silver
    Contributor
    Posted 06-16-2025 10:52 AM

    Thank you for posting on the Online Community! I'm tagging some folks who may be able to help answer your question: @Richard Strömberg, @kajal sheth, @Robert Foster. Thank you for being a part of the ASES solar community!



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    Ella Nielsen
    Membership & Engagement Director
    American Solar Energy Society
    Boulder CO
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  • 4.  RE: Which residential solar + battery system do you recommend?

    ASES Life Member
    Posted 06-16-2025 10:59 AM
    The MidNite 5KWH batteries are getting good reviews from my customers.





  • 5.  RE: Which residential solar + battery system do you recommend?

    Chapter Leader
    Posted 06-16-2025 05:36 PM

    Hi Steven,

    Habitat for Humanity is a good option. We (Equitable Solar Solutions) work with them in Colorado to build reuse PV arrays. Would you mind sending me a few photos of the module front and back sides for a quick review? I'm one of the co-authors of IEC 63525 report on best practices for reuse of PV modules and sometimes we find equipment that is not suitable for reuse. It sounds like they are all meeting or exceeding the manufacturer's linear power warranty. What instrument did you use to measure power performance? I can recommend the Elejoy EY1800W and the new FLIR PV meter as well.

    Regards,

    Rich

    restromberg@alaska.edu   



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    Rich Stromberg
    ESS Prog Dir / PhD Student
    Equitable Solar Solutions / Univ of Alaska Fairbanks
    Chair, PV Technical Division at ASES
    Colorado
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  • 6.  RE: Which residential solar + battery system do you recommend?

    ASES Life Member
    Posted 06-16-2025 06:18 PM

    Richard,

    It will be a while before the modules are removed but I will take photos for you. I have not done any module level diagnostics as you suggest. I have monitored the energy output for 18 years. Without correcting for any annual variation in irradiance, the best fit to the 17 data points gives a slope of just under 0.5% per year which includes not just module degradation but the entire system. 

    Steve 



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    Steven Hegedus
    Professor and Senior Scientist
    University of Delaware
    Newark Delaware
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