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  • 1.  Solar analysis of Northeast neighborhoods in Kansas City

    Posted 08-25-2023 07:52 AM
    I'm helping Jerusalem Farm (a non-profit) start a low-income solar program in Kansas City.  I want to do a little analysis of the six neighborhoods Jerusalem Farm serves in KC's Northeast.  I want to:
    1.  Identify roofs with good sun exposure
    2.  Figure out which of those roofs are on houses that are owner-occupied (because we only work with homeowners)
    3.  Contact those homeowners to get more information about their roof age/condition, see if they'd be income-qualified to get solar from us, ask if they're interested, etc.
    Number 3 is probably something I'd be more involved in myself, but just #1 and #2 I'm thinking will be a lot of work, and I have plenty to do, so I'm wanting to pay someone to do that analysis for us.  I was thinking it might be something a college student or intern might have interest in.  Or perhaps someone has another idea of someone(s) who may be interested.  If anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears!  


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    Adam Rossi
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    Jerusalem Farm
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  • 2.  RE: Solar analysis of Northeast neighborhoods in Kansas City

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    Posted 08-26-2023 08:32 AM
    Edited by william fitch 08-28-2023 06:19 PM

    Your post caused me to do some Googling. 

    First I did Jerusalem Farm, followed by Intentional communities then Land Trust Home and lastly J.F. on Facebook. Someone did not like the phrase VIP!!

    Intentional community was in the ball park of what I suspected.

    What an interesting mix. A bit of Amish mixed in with Catholicism with a touch of the movie, "For Richer or Poorer" (Tim Allen and Kirstie Alley).

    In the direction of the social mix of, "So a Rabbi, a Priest, and a Minister Walk Into a Bar..."

    I cannot quite get my head around the Catholic piece. The big "C" is all about power, money, control, etc... I don't see "them" in the direction of communal living, or is that phrase in to strong of a direction..??..

    Shifting gears, the free version of google Earth and someone who is really good with it, can find you your open south facing roofs as an encompassing start. Work out the ownership details from there... You might even be able to find an already produced list for solar sales leads, which would be looking for the same attributes, south facing, solar access and ownership. But that said, do not underestimate low pitch East/West roofs. With PV so cheap today, the actual outputs and ROI are not half bad. People are even putting them on North side roofs because the crews are already there, setup, etc.. It is cheap enough for that now...

    Additionally, check out these guys:

    https://www.santansolar.com/product-category/solar-panels/used-solar-panels/

    They are a good company, and if you are looking to "bottom scrape" on pricing.

    They check the panels for VOC, etc.. good shipping crates etc..



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    william fitch
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  • 3.  RE: Solar analysis of Northeast neighborhoods in Kansas City

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    Contributor
    Posted 08-28-2023 09:17 AM

    Thank you for sharing, Adam! Looks like a really cool project.

    Sharing this with @Kyle Combes in case this is of interest to you!



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    Ella Nielsen
    Membership & Engagement Director
    American Solar Energy Society
    Boulder CO
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  • 4.  RE: Solar analysis of Northeast neighborhoods in Kansas City

    ASES Life Member
    Posted 08-28-2023 09:56 AM

    Adam, great post. I remember talking with you about affordable housing at SOLAR 2023. Hopefully, someone from the On-line community will step up to help you right away, but in the longer term, I was wondering if you had considered going for one of the Prizes mentioned by NREL/DOE at the conference.   There were categories that sounded like might fit your ideas. https://americanmadechallenges.org/  And going out on a limb here, but since the competitions mention partnerships with other organizations, there could be a way that ASES could assist as a partner if funding was received for such. Debbie Brodt-Giles with NREL who presented on it at the conference mentioned affordable housing as an attractive idea for funding.



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    Debbie Coleman
    (Architect & ASES Solar Buildings V-Chair)
    Sun Plans, Architect
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    https://www.sunplans.com
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  • 5.  RE: Solar analysis of Northeast neighborhoods in Kansas City

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    Posted 08-29-2023 03:01 AM
    Edited by Timothy Mcbride 08-29-2023 05:54 AM

    Adam nice project there,

    looks pretty wholesome, 

    Did some research on this and came up with the following references, 

    Google has created software that can calculate potential solar savings based on your home's roof shape and local weather patterns by utilizing machine learning and 3D models within Google Earth images. Essentially, Project Sunroof allows you to measure the benefits of rooftop solar for your home using Google Maps. 

    Sun Roof

    Also came across these folks 

    Roof Graf

    I am sure as solar becomes more commonplace the demand for this type software you are alluding to will be out there for all to use and as software technicians, programmers modifly towards an ever increasing solar community. 

    Also there is this company out there that seems to be barking up the same tree as your request called  Aurora Solar as it might be good to check out some of their products as well as once you get the addresses to plug them into some of these type programs should be easy enough. 

    Aurora Solar

    Hopes that this helps some with your vision and Good LUCK  out there on those grasslands..



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    Timothy Mcbride
    CEO/Owner
    Sol-Era R & D
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